Is a Blender or Juicer Best to Make Coconut Milk & Other Nut Milks?

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Today we have another exciting episode for you and this was spawned by a viewer actually.
He wrote in and said “Hey John, what appliance do I need to make coconut milk? Do I need
a juicer or do I need a blender? Because I saw you know a lot of people make the coconut
milks in the blender and then you know you make it in the juicer.”. So this video is
gonna answer that question once and for all. Plus it’s also gonna let you know you know
how to make the coconut milk. I go through a lot of coconuts here. This is a standard
brown coconut that you may be familiar with. It’s more mature, it doesn’t have a lot
of good water content and I mainly buy the coconut for the liquid containing side. Instead
of buying a Zico or one of the those other bottled coconut waters, you know I think it’s
best to get foods actually found in nature. So if I want coconut water I not gonna buy
a package, I’m gonna buy a real coconut. And based on my calculations I found that
actually a coconut in most cases is actually cheaper than buying the coconut water in the
package. Plus besides just getting the coconut water you’re gonna get the delicious coconut
meat so I have an abundance of extra coconut meat here because I always drink the water
and don’t eat the meat a lot. So what I do with the meat is actually take it out and
dehydrate it so I could have my own coconut shreds for later or I’ll blend something
like this to make the coconut milk which I can use you know in different recipes or other
things. I’ve been using it in the ice cream maker. It makes some kick ass vegan ice creams.
But today we’re just gonna show you how to use the coconut milk and I think that you
know coconut milk to drink it is far better than any dairy you know kind of milk or what
not. In my opinion dairy is not necessary and I want you guys to think about that for
a minute. Dairy is not necessary. We don’t need dairy to live, there’s no specific
nutrient in dairy that we require and when we’re drinking dairy we’re getting our
nutrients second hand. Second hand from the animal that produced it based on what they
ate. So I say make your own milk from plants because that’s what the animals are eating
to make their milk. So I like coconut milk, that by far is my favorite milk due to the
lauric acid content and the medium chain fatty acids that are so beneficial. And you know
I don’t like any extracted coconut oil because that’s 100% fat but in the coconut milk
you got a lot more nutrition because not only do you have the fat but you also have you
know some of the fibers left over and all of the different nutrients and phytochemicals
that’s contained within the coconut. So let’s get back to the question, what’s
better to make coconut milk a juicer or a blender? Well let me give you the secret.
In general right, if you wanna juice you wanna get a juicer. If you wanna do another you
know task in the kitchen then you wanna get a blender. The blenders for the most part
are a lot more versatile than the juicers. For example this is the Omega VRT juicer and
the Omega VRT juicer pretty much only juices and makes coconut milk and yes you could kind
of put your you know frozen banana sorbet in it and nut butters in it but it’s not
really you know designed to do that. There are other juicers such as the Omega 8004 or
8006 that will not really make coconut milk too well but will also do the nut butters
or the frozen fruit sorbets. That’s at the best of course to make the coconut milk or
any type of milk is actually the blender. So actually why don’t we just go ahead and
get into that now that you guys know this. One of the things that has come out a lot
lately is that you know there’s now taking certain companies are promoting their juicer
as a almond milk maker and while I think drinking almond milk is definitely better than drinking
cow milk, in my opinion making almond milk in a juicer when you put in the whole almonds
or whole pieces of coconut chunks in the juicer, that’s a bad idea. Why? Because you’re
not gonna get the optimal nutrition out of the almonds. When the juicer does break the
nuts down, it’s gonna be far better to actually put the nuts into the blender to break them
down cause you get a much better extraction and more nutrients out and more of the fatty
acid content out of the extraction into your milk. So it’s just gonna taste that much
better. So that’s as I said some juicers will do the milk making but I always recommend
the blender. That’s what I’m gonna show you guys today with a twist that’s why I
have the juicer on the table as well. The first thing is we need to get out our coconut
meat. So you saw I generally like to use the white coconuts, they’re lower in fat than
the standard browns. Plus I drink these for the water the water tastes ten times better
than the brown coconut. I’m gonna go ahead and put this guy to the side over here. And
I basically pop a hole into the coconut as you could see every coconut has three holes.
It has two eyes and a mouth, much like us, two eyes and a mouth. A coconut is actually
called a monkey face because if you look closely the coconuts always have two little eyebrows
on two of the holes and those are the eyes and then one hole does not have a brow and
that’s the mouth. The mouth is the easiest spot in the coconut to put a you know put
a screwdriver through or have a special coconut opener to pop a hole in there. Do the mouth
only and then stick a straw to drink the water but then I’m left with all the meat. What
do we do with the meat? Once the meat’s in there we need to get it open. I got a nice
cleaver here. I’m just gonna basically tap the middle like it’s the earth and you’re
tapping around the equator and we’re gonna tap and turn. Tap turn, tap turn, tap turn,
tap turn, tap turn. And if you do this good enough what’ll happen is it’ll actually
open up much like that and journey to the center of the earth. So once you got it open
the next part is to get the coconut meat out. Now many of you guys might use a knife or
you know a butter knife or some tool to try to get in there but it can be very challenging
to get the coconut meat out so I found this really cool tool. It’s a coconut de-meating
tool. This is available at All you do is simply take this tool which
has a sharp knife edge, so you do wanna be careful about this. If you do live in Brooklyn
you know and you’re a lady you could carry this in your purse and take it out and jab
people with it if they’re trying to cost you. I just don’t live in Brooklyn so I’m using
it to get my coconut meat out. So all you do is you take this tool and you get in between
the shell and the coconut meat like that. And I like to just stick it in all the way
and then I’ll kind of like turn it as I’m working it around the whole coconut. Now I
always encourage you guys you know to make your coconut milk out of fresh coconuts. You
can’t do this with the dried coconut shreds from the store. It’s definitely not this
same. So you want the food to have life in it cause the life that’s in the food transfers
to your life and makes you more lifeful or rejuvenated. So it’s like eating live foods
and the reasons why I like the juicers and the blenders is they allow you to eat more
live food. Foods that are live and in my opinion life begot life. So as you can see I’m working
away at this coconut. I’ve stuck this tool in all the way, loosened up the majority of
the coconut meat, and once you get in there you can then try to stick this tool in further
and keep rocking your hand back and forth and as you can see if you’re successful
you’ll get a little bowl out. So this would be a cool serving dish or actually you could
even if you’re like a wood worker you could sand this stuff down and make a little bowls
out of these things. It’s really cool but actually I just compost these. Now what you’re
gonna notice is on the back of the coconut you’re gonna get some part of the like the
shell fragments. Not necessarily the shell but it’s a thin membrane. Now you might
say John do I need to remove that membrane for my coconut milk? Well if you’re an anal
chef person that you know doesn’t want their coconut milk to look kind of brown tinged,
you’ll wanna take it off. For me you know I don’t wanna waste the time. I’ll through
it in there and you know I’ll be removing this later as I will be removing most of the
fiber. So what we’re gonna do next is actually we’re gonna go ahead and take the top off
the blender and we’re gonna add this to the blender. Now, very important to makes
sure there’s no large cell fragments while you can grab the membrane you don’t want
any hard piece of shell cause that might mess up the blender or mess up the next step after
we blend it. So I like to just break this up into small pieces to make it even for the
blender to work. It is very easy to do with your hand. Once we have that half in the blender,
then we’re gonna go ahead and separate out the other half. So as you could see I got that side out. Once
again it makes a nice bowl and once again we’re just gonna go ahead and make sure
there’s no major shell fragments on here. The membrane once again is fine. We’re gonna
tear that up and put it in the blender. Now you know one of the things with the coconut
is to make a milk to need to add the water. So many times I might like to use the water
in the coconut but many times I like to drink the water in the coconut because it’s so
full of electrolytes. And then I got the meat and I wan’t the meat to taste good. While
you could just chomp down and eat the meat you know I’d prefer to blend it into a liquid
state and actually make more service for you. And that’s what the blender does. It basically
has the sharp blades in the Vitamix basically grind up and fractionate the food into a smaller
particle size so that there’s more surface area so that you’ll get better digestion.
So instead of using the coconut water what I like to do is add like a nice filtered water
here. And we’re gonna add to one whole coconut meat add approximately 32 ounces of water.
You can use a little bit less you can use more like if you wanna make more of a cream
coconut cream you could add very minimal water or actually just use the coconut to extract
the fat out. I’m actually using the water to make more of a milk. Now you can put more
water if you like more of a watery consistency. I found that 32 ounces per one coconut is
about the right balance so that I get the right amount of milk from my water. Once we
do that we’re gonna go ahead and put the top on the Vitamix. I’m using the Vitamix
turbo-blend VS. The Vitamix turbo-blend VS is the blender, Vitamix blender that I recommend
to you. Vitamix has many different models and most models are pretty much the same they
have similar power they have a similar craft. The main difference is the accessories that
come with it. So the reason why I like the turbo-blend VS over the other Vitamix models
is number one the recipe book. So this is a raw vegan and vegetarian recipes. The standard
recipe book that comes with most Vitamix’s is your standard American you know recipe
book but if you keep doing what you’ve always been doing then you’ll get the same results.
So you know if you eat a standard American diet and it’s not working for you and you’re
overweight and things aren’t working you can’t continue to eat those same foods even if they’re
processed in the Vitamix. You wanna make dietary changes to get better and you know results
that you’re looking for. So you know I have been eating a plant based healthy diet for
the past 18 years, I’ve never been healthier. I know you guys could do it too and thats
why I got this recipe book I mean this thing folds out, it’ll actually sit up on your
countertop. It has you know literally hundreds of recipes here that’ll teach you how to eat
a plant based healthy diet. And even if you don’t eat all plant based have one day a week
where you eat plants instead of other stuff and you know that alone is making an improvement
in your diet. I always encourage you guys to improve whatever you’re doing each and
every day. So this book has a myriad of beverages juice dips and spreads sauce entrees sides
desserts and even dressings and marinades that you can make. In addition this also comes
with, unlike any other Vitamix, it comes with a hemp nut milk bag. And this is the little
tool you will need to make the coconut milk or any other nut milk hemp milk almond milk
cashew milk macadamia nut milk with the blender and the nut milk bag without using the juicer. We’ll show you more about this in a second
but let’s go ahead and blend this guy up. So we added the coconut meat and the water
the next step is to blend. I always like to start the blender on low. This has a nice
variable speed. Once this starts to get going well crank to high. Now it’s highly important you have a high
powered blender. Most blenders will not process this coconut meat like this. It’ll like clog
up and it’ll leave big fragments so its very imperative you have a powerful blender
to fractionate so it makes the best coconut milk. So once that’s running a little bit
you can now stop the blender now as you can see we have a nice mixture here of the coconut
meat and the water and you might say “John is that the coconut milk?”. Well this has
a lot of fiber and while you could drink it if you want a nice fibrous milk and let me
go ahead and try that today. Mhmm…it’s full of grit. This is not a good coconut milk,
God. I don’t like it. So what we wanna do next is we wanna remove the fiber and we just
want the nice creamy milky texture without all the grit and the fiber. Two things you
could do, number 1 you’re gonna take a standard bowl or I got a Anchor Hocking cup uh measuring
cup here that’s glass, available at your local big box store. Then you’re gonna take
the nut milk bag and don’t worry if you forget these instructions I’m telling you
they got a little insert that explains how you use the nut milk bag that comes with the
Vitamix. You’re gonna then take the nut milk bag. You’re gonna just spread it over
your container here whether you’re using a bowl or a cup and the you’re gonna pour
the mixture into the nut milk bag. Then what’s gonna happen is you’re gonna lift this up
the water or the milk will actually come through the holes and into your container and then
you also may need to ring this out and what not and then you’re gonna be left with two
things. You’re gonna separate the fiber from the milk. So the milk’s gonna be here,
the fiber’s gonna be left in here and then you need to clean the bag. And that’s the
easiest way to make the coconut milk. With the Vitamix turbo-blend VS once again
you get the blender and the nut milk bag. Everything you need to make the nut milk besides
the coconuts or the nuts or the purified water. Now if you don’t wanna use the nut milk
bag cause you know this kind of gets messy. You gotta kind of ring it out with your hands
and you gotta clean the nut milk bag which you know fibers get stuck in here and I don’t
like it so much. You could do the easy way and that’s what I’m gonna show you guys
and that’s by using the Omega VRT juicer as the second step. Now you guys could use
the Omega VRT as the only step to make nut milk so when we took out the coconut meat
and had the water we could put a piece of coconut in there and put some water down the
spout but that’s not gonna work nearly as well as the way that I’m showing you guys
today. I’ll always want you guys to do it the best you can and the best way is gonna
get you better results and if you do it the other way by taking chunks of coconuts putting
it in here with pouring the water at the same time is gonna be a real you know watery coconut
milk. It’s not going to be rich and thick because we haven’t fully fractionated the
coconut up like we have in the Vitamix with it’s really sharp blades. And I just wanna
mention that the Vitamix of all the blenders I’ve tested to date has the sharpest blades
and gonna do the best job at cutting it instead of beating like other high power blenders
might. So next we’re gonna go ahead and turn the juicer on. We have this set up to
juice and I mean all we have to do is turn this machine on and now we’re just gonna
simply pour the mixture through the Omega VRT. And what I like is let I like to let
it fill up to the spout to the top but not go into the little funnel here. And as you
could see only what we’re getting out is coconut milk on this side and slowly but surely
we’re getting some of the pulp out over on this side. Now I mean the juicer that’s
what the juicer is designed to do. It’s designed to take a carrot and separate the
pulp from the liquid. That’s what we’re doing here we’re just separating the coconut
pulp from the coconut liquid or the coconut milk. In addition you may notice that I do have
a little strainer here. Now the Omega VRT is notorious for making more pulp in the juice
than other juicers so I like to also just use a secondary strainer to ensure I’m getting
a rich coconut milk without the pulp. And as you could see there’s not a whole lot
of you know pulp coming out of the juicer but there is some. Alright so check it out
man you could now see the coconut fiber coming out of the juicer on this side and you know
this does take some time. You’re not gonna be done in two minutes two seconds you know
you’re gonna have to take some time and wait. But let me tell you the wait is worth it because
you know if you’ve ever seen a nut milk bag before it gets quite messy. Plus I think
also the Omega VRT juicer besides making the coconut milk is quite beneficial to have in
your kitchen so that you can extract the nutrients, the liquid gold from vegetables. You know
it’s very easy to eat fruits and digest the fruits and get the nutrition out of the
fruits because of their soft texture but vegetables have a hard fibrous cell walls it’s really
hard to digest it well especially if you’re not chewing each mouthful 200 times. I mean
why do we feed babies baby food right, that’s in a mush? It’s because they don’t have
the teeth well you’re supposed to be chewing each mouthful 200 times and when we could
extract it with the juicer, just the liquid because our bodies will absorb the nutrients
and only in a liquid state the little villi in our intestines you’re gonna get the most
and quickest nutrition punch ever. Let’s go ahead and grab this fiber here.
I’m gonna go ahead and let some of this stuff come out in my hand and show you guys.
I mean this coconut these coconut shreds are really dry. I can’t even squeeze it as hard
as I can to get any moisture out. This stuff is really dry. So you know if you really wanted
to you could actually take this and do baking with it still. It’s basically for the most
part de-fatted coconut fiber. You could also actually dehydrate this and use this in different
recipes. I personally just compost this. Feed to it my bacteria in my compost. Let’s go
ahead and add more of the liquid there. Now it’s very important when using the Omega
VRT with this technique you do not use the pusher and in general when using the Omega
VRT to juice in I do not recommend the pusher. Either you’re probably feeding the produce
in too fast if you are. In addition if you do have an Omega VRT please check my other
videos on youtube for the best practices on where I show exactly how to use the Omega
VRT to get the best results when juicing with it because you can’t just start sticking
any old thing in there and it’s gonna juice to get the best results. You need to you know
do and follow proper procedures to get the best results. Alright so we’re gonna go
ahead and lift this up now cause it’s literally swimming in the milk. I think we got just
a little bit more milk here to process. Alright so that’s pretty much the rest of the milk
now right into the Omega VRT. As you could see it’s collected very little
um pulp coming out. The Omega VRT does an exceptional job at doing this. Now you know
much like many of you guys and ladies who might have many pairs of shoes I have many
juicers in my kitchen that I get to select from based on the specific task that I wanna
do. If I’m making coconut milk I always pick the Omega VRT. It’s a juicer that does
it the best. If I’m juicing carrots and I want the highest extraction yield then I’ll
use the Greenstar Elite. If I wanna be done very quickly I use a centrifugal ejection
juicer because that’s done really fast but when I do do that you know I’m giving up
you know essentially 50% of some of the nutrients are sticking with the pulp because those machines
run at a high speed and they’re not super efficient at breaking open the fiber cells
and getting all the nutrition out like some slow juicers are. So as you could see the
juicer’s pretty much slowed down to a crawl. Not much liquid is coming anymore and as you
could see I have very little pulp in the basket. I think a dropped a little pulp when I was
showing you guys the pulp there but other than that there’s pretty much no pulp in
there. Next I like to go ahead and take this over put it on this side, and as you could
see I have the rich delicious coconut milk you know over 4 cups here. It’s totally
fiber free. Mhmm. That’s the most delicious coconut milk I’ve ever tasted. Now once
you make the coconut milk this will store. I like to store it for no more than 3 to 4
days in the fridge kept cold in a airtight glass sealed container filled up to the brim.
And as you may notice I did not do any flavorings or additives to this. Now when you buy coconut
milk almond milk or nut milk in the store they’re often adding caragenin in and salt
and flavoring and probably sugar and you know I want you guys to eat as natural as possible
and when you have these machines this will allow you to process your own nuts or coconuts
at home and once you make it then you can add sweeteners, whether you wanna add dates
to make it sweet or honey to make it sweet. You know the ways I like to use the coconut
milk is I don’t eat cereal so I don’t add it to my cereal like you guys. I like
to use it in smoothies. I’ll actually fill up the blender with milk alone with a few
bananas strawberries and some blueberries and blend it up into a delicious rich smoothie.
So I think that pretty much does it for today’s episode. So you know which appliance is best
for making the coconut milk? By far it’s the blender. When you use the blender and
the juicer I think you get the best of both worlds. I mean no matter what I want you guys
to remember the more ways you could include the fresh fruits and vegetables and the coconuts
in your diet, I believe the healthier you will be than eating the standard American
frikkin processed foods and you know diets that are rich in animal products. I think
plants for the future. So I hope you enjoyed this episode. Once again my name is John Kohler
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38 thoughts on “Is a Blender or Juicer Best to Make Coconut Milk & Other Nut Milks?

  • I love all your videos and I have learned so much from being a raw vegan but they are so long. By the way I got the omega 330 hd WONDERFUL!

  • Great vid. I've been wondering about that. When I make coconut milk in my Vert it gums up with cream and is hard to deal with. Looks like a good excuse to pick up a Vitamix.

  • 1. Better blend – sharper blades promotes better cutting than beating action.
    2. More dependable – I would often blow out bearings in the blendtec disposable carafe.

  • John you had a rainbow Aura man! You must be over filled with phytonutrients! Taste the rainbow!

    Awesome video! I can't wait to see you try the glass carafe dynablend. I hope it does as good a job. -Mark

  • Still looking for a review of the new Blendtec Twister Jar, though. Even though I know you love Vitamix, I'm sure you must have customers who like the Blendtec. Would love to see a review of this relatively new product.

  • There is a trick to make the nut bags a little easier. Just turn the bag inside out so the seam fabric is on the outside then when done just empty the bag out by turning it inside out again and rinse. This way the nut particles do not get stuck in between the seam fabric.

  • Hi John, I have the Omega 8006 (Amazing appliance). Is it possible replace the vrt for the 8006 to make the coconut milk, using it in the same way that you used the vrt in this video?

  • Hi John. Absolutely love your channel. What's your experience with the refrigerated shelf life of this type of coconut milk? I make almond milk in my Vitamix using this same technique, but these types of unpasteurized nut milks will often start to separate or change in flavor after a few days in the fridge. Being unpasteurized raw milks, they seem to have short shelf lives. How does this coconut milk made using the same technique fare in storage? Okay shelf life or does it go bad quickly?

  • Hi John! If you don't the drink coconut water right away, what is the best way to store it, and how long can it last?

  • That is what I have found too. I've had to have the carafe replaced twice (thank goodness it was still under warranty). I have both and while there are things I actually prefer on the Blendtec – if I had to choose one, I would choose the Vitamix.

  • store in an airtight container in the fridge. Store it like you would fresh juices. (I made a video on it). I store fresh coconut water no more than 3 days. Freshest is bestest.

  • I am NOT paid to make statements. I make these statements based on my personal experience, and will soon BACK it up in a video. The blendtec is still a great blender, I wish *EVERY* product would always improve.

  • I always recommend you make enough coconut milk (or other nut milk) AS NEEDED. and drink it right after you make it, just like fresh juice. If you must store, I store for no more than 2-3 days myself. Its probably good for up to 5 days from my experience.

  • While you can do this, it will make a milk with more fiber in it. I dont recommend it, but people have used it. Try it and see if it is acceptable for you. I always use the best appliance for the job, and the vrt is the juicer that best does this task from what I have found.

  • the white coconut in this video is from Mexico. They are generally available at Hispanic and maybe Asian Markets. I get these in LA at the wholesale produce terminal.

  • Agreed. I will soon make a comparison video comparing nut milk in the vrt400 vs vrt350. should be a fun video.

  • While you can do this, it will make a milk with more fiber in it. I dont recommend it, but people have used it. Try it and see if it is acceptable for you. I always use the best appliance for the job, and the vrt is the juicer that best does this task from what I have found.

  • Great timing! I just tried making rice milk in the Omega VT juicer. It kept locking up; but finally it was done. Definitely a work in progress. I'll have to watch your other video again to see what I did wrong.

  • The Living Milk company out of ibiza do a brilliant polyester "universal nut milk bag" on amazon, really durable & easy to clean, i use that and my magimix 11610 blender, the milk is incredible & the yield is great. The remaining coconut is like sawdust, great for thickening stir fry sauces or adding to smoothies or deserts. the only problem in the uk is young coconuts are tough to find so if you want nice coconut water you have to buy it in a carton or can.

  • Hi John, thanks for the great video!! I tried doing Coco mike the same way as you showed with the Omega VERT Slow Juicer VSJ843 but nothing came out of the pulp shoot. The milk never got separated from the fiber. I don't know what I did wrong: Did I over blended the coco in the blender? Did I make it to thick in the blender? Maybe the slow vert doesn't work with coco milk? Please advise. Thanks Much!

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