First Look: Omega NC800 Cold Press Juicer and 8004 Comparison

Alright this is John Kohler with
Today we have another exciting episode for you and I got the all new NC800 Juicer! This
is the video you guys have been waiting for! It’s a juicer that I’ve been waiting for,
because I tried it at the trade shows several months back and now, within thirty days it’s
going to be available for you guys to buy. Before you guys get to buy it, I get to sample
it, show you guys what it’s about and share my opinions on it with you.
So to let you guys know if you don’t know what this is, this is the all new Omega NC800.
Now the NC800 model is the upgraded model, the new model of the next generation, fifth
generation of horizontal single auger juicers. So Omega originally came out with the Omega
8001 and then came out with the 8002, then they had the 8003 and 8005, then they had
the 8004 and 8006 and this is the latest and greatest one. I’m really excited for it, actually
I used it at the trade show and I was really impressed with how it worked.
So what we’re going to do in this video is actually we’re going to unbox the all new
NC800 and then we’re going to actually compare it to the fourth generation, the Omega 8004
juicer. So without further ado, let’s go ahead and actually read a couple of things
on the box. On the box it says NC800HDS, so the HD stands for heavy duty that means it
has an ultem auger which is 8 times stronger than the melamine auger that came with the
original horizontal Omega juicers. They are still included on the Omega 8003 and 8005
models. The S stands for silver, it comes in a silver
color. This is the base model. They’re not offering at present time this model in white,
at present time they will offer this in the silver color, they will also offer it in a
red and also a chrome plated plastic which will be the NC900. They NC800 and the NC900
models are all the same machine, only the color’s different.
It says a low speed system, 80 rpms preserves and maintains nutrients for up to 72 hours
maximum juice extraction. Five adjustable settings for maximum juice output. Multipurpose:
makes juice, soy milk, nut butters, baby food and more. Easy to use and powerful. Powerful
commercial motor and heavy duty GE ultem auger. So while it does have a commercial motor,
this machine is not certified for commercial use. At present time there are no low speed
certified or NSF juicers that I am aware of that’s really going to be effective at leafy
greens. For that you’re going to watch a whole different video that I haven’t made yet.
So now I want to make a few comments on what they claim this machine will do. Now I’ve
been using the juicers, the Omega brand juicers, the 8000 series and the VRTs for many years
now. In my opinion, I know you guys as customers always want to buy one machine that does it
all. But in my opinion, like if you bought a car that also was an airplane it wouldn’t
do one or the other one really well. It might do both of them, but you’re going to sacrifice
something. That’s what I think when you buy a juicer that does it all.
While there is a way to make this machine produce some soy milk or not milks it’s not
optimal and I do not recommend it. The better machine to make the nut milks in my opinion
is the Omega VRT series of juicers, the Omega VRT400 happens to be the best to make nut
milks. But the Omega VRT juicers will not do the banana ice creams, the nut butters,
the sorbets or the homogenizing like this one will. So you got to make a choice.
If you’re looking at the VRT series and I will have a video about this against the VRT
series, a good comparison video between the two, you really have to figure out do you
want to be able to sorbets and nut butters and juice more or do you want to be able to
do nut milks and juice. Each of the juicers in addition to have their own pros and cons
but we’re not going to get into that in this video. You’ll have to wait for the Omega VRT400
vs the NC800 video that I’ll do hopefully fairly soon.
In any case, without further ado let’s go ahead and open this guy and show you what’s
in the box. So open this thing up man. This is a huge box. So I do want to say right off
the get go that the size of this box is almost double the size of the Omega 8004, 8006 model.
It’s a lot larger because it’s just packed differently. So yeah, that’s pretty much all
I have to say about that. Oh and inside the box you’re going to get
a registration card to register your juicer with Omega. Now you can send this registration
card in to register your juicer or what you can also do is go online to their website, to register your registration and save a stamp and save some fossil fuel,
to save time. Now the warranty on this machine is right
here on the bottom, fifteen years. That’s five, five, five. Fifteen years. Fifteen years
is the longest warranty in the juicing industry. I encourage you guys to get a juicer with
a long warranty because when you get a juicer with a long warranty you’re making an investment
in the most important thing you’ve got, your health.
With a fifteen year warranty you’re guaranteed a juicer that’s going to work for you for
the next fifteen years. A lot of inexpensive juicers may have a ninety day warranty or
one year warranty. But fifteen years that’s a long time and pretty much it’s probably
going to be the last juicer you’re going to have to buy. So this is a onetime purchase
you’re not going to be buying a new juicer like you buy a new car every couple of years.
They’re pretty dependable and with a fifteen year warranty that’s your assurance that’s
it’s going to be working for a long time. So you also get a little instruction book.
Now this instruction book to me looks like its a little poor translation from another
language and while it does have the basics in there, it does not contain the recipes
and while they do claim it does do nut milks and other things and also actually also excrutes
pasta which is cool. They don’t actually have the specific instructions on how to do that
in the instruction book. So I’m a little bit saddened by that, so you’ll have to wait for
some of my videos where I show how to use some of these functions and do some of these
things in the NC800. Okay, so those are the first two things. Next
there’s the main baby right here. Check it out. NC800 first time seen on YouTube, for
real. So this is known as the puppy because if you look at it, it has like a nice little
arch here underneath it and if you just look like this it could be like ruff, ruff, ruff,
rururuff, ruff, ruff. Alright, so yeah it looks like the puppy and basically you just
got the cord and it’s a three pronged cord, nice long cord probably about a good four
feet. It’s got the button to turn it off and on
is right here. It’s a three position button. You have off which is in the center position,
on which is pushed in on the top and then reverse is a moment contact if you push it
in the bottom. The reverse is only to be used if the juicer get stuck.
Let’s see, here on the bottom it has a rating NC800S 150 watts, date of manufacture March
2013. This is hot off the press. Let’s see, actually it’s kind of light. It’s probably
about the same weight as the 8006 juicer. As you can see it’s a nice silver finish.
Almost like a silver metallic color, kind of reminds of like, it’s probably be like
a pearl white, or a silver pearl color. You have the attachment here, it says open and
close, this is to put the juicer assembly on there. It has a nice built in handle, so
you could easily carry and pick up the juicer which I also do like a lot.
So let’s see, let’s find out what else is in the box here. First we got the pusher coming
right out and the pusher’s kind of like stadium, kind of like the oval like stadium thing.
For those of you guys that are familiar with the 8004/8006 series machines that pusher’s
a circle. So guess what, this has a larger feed chute, which we’ll talk about in a second.
There’s the pusher. You also get a cleaning brush. This brush
is not an over-sized toothbrush for a giant. You could brush your teeth with it. This is
a special cleaning brush it has nylon bristles and this is actually a really stiff bristle,
this is going to be imperative to clean the screen of the juicer. In addition it has a
little plastic screwdriver end that’s not going to scratch the screen, but you’re going
to use this to like dig out some of the pulp in the screen so that you can clean the juicer
easily. Let’s see, oops, here’s the main body right
here. The main body housing of the all new NC800. Check it out. There’s that feed chute
and we’re going to compare this to the feed chute size on the Omega 8004 in just a little
bit. Basically this is a similar design. It’s a single auger style and we’ll compare it,
once again in a little bit, to see the exact differences. But there are many things that
are the same. First off, when you twist this you basically
have just the drum cap which goes on. Then you have the juicing screen, which actually
amazing is fairly similar to the previous model. You also have the auger which also
looks fairly similar. Then you have the drum or the main body. Now this piece is a clear
plastic and it has the funnel piece molded in. So it’s actually one piece they glued
it together, you cannot take this apart like on the previous model. So that’s that.
Let’s see what else is in the box here. Oh, we’re almost done getting all the cool stuff
out of the box. Alright, so check it out. We got a collection cup, nice clear collection
cup. One of the things I like about this collection cup is that it is a much larger size than
the collection cups that came with the 8004 and 8006 models.
In addition here is what’s called your blank plate or your solid screen. So unlike the
juicing screen that has holes here, this one is solid and the juicing screen also has holes
here because this is a two stage screen. Things on the initial crush juice comes out here,
stage one. It’s worked along this little area of the screen which the produce gets crushed
and squeezed. The juice comes out here. On this one it’s just solid so whatever you put
in literally the juicer just crushes and squeezes and ejects it. So this is the one you’re going
to use for the nut butters, the sorbets and other functions when you’re basically just
using it as a grinder or mincer. Let’s see what else have we got in here. Alright,
coming right out, oop this is the last parts in here. That’s definitely really cool, let’s
go ahead and get rid of this huge box off the table. The last parts are right in this
container. So you get two containers, this one happens to be the pulp catch container,
this is the juice catch cup, the kind of go underneath like that and actually they’re
significantly larger, I didn’t check the volume on this yet but it’s much larger than the
old model. Other parts that are in here, you have the
pasta extruder, so these just only extrude the pasta, like shapes. If you make your pasta
dough and feed it through the machine. If you’re buying this machine just to make pasta
I’d say save your money, this is an expensive machine just to make pasta in. This only extrudes
the shapes so that means you’re going to have to have a stand mixer or whatever to mix up
your pasta flour, dough stuff and then put it through here just to make the spaghetti
like shapes. What I recommend instead is if you really
want to make spaghetti just buy like a spaghetti machine that you put all the ingredients in,
it actually mixes it up and then actually extrudes out the spaghetti all in one unit.
So I find that most people do not actually use the spaghetti functions.
Lets see. Then another piece here is just the mochi cone or the basically the screen
you’d use to make the sorbets and the nut butters. This just extrudes out whatever you
put in, grinds it up and sends it through a nice little thin tube like shape.
So the last piece in here is what makes the Omega NC800 very special. It’s one of the
reasons for it’s increase in performance which means juice yield when using it. So the standard
Omega 8000 series, basically what it has, it has a fixed outlet. So in the juice screen
there’s a little doohickey or silicon like this that keeps some pressure on the pulp
in addition the NC800 also has this right here. So we’re going to go ahead and put that
right in. We’re going to put the drum cap on here.
For the new model, NC800 has an adjustable end cap that you’re going to put on here.
So this goes on and it has settings from zero to five. Now, the different levels is how
much extra back pressure is going to be put on the pulp to keep it inside the juicer longer
to get maximum extraction. This also means that this machine may be easier to back up
if you have this set incorrectly. For example if you have this set to five, it’s going to
keep the pulp in there longer and create a higher yield. So I recommend you always start
off on a five and if it’s backing up then you’re going to have to loosen this down to
a one to let the pulp flow out. I guess, so without further ado let’s go ahead
and put this guy together and show you how easy it is to assemble. Going to go ahead
and take this apart for you guys. Once again, basically you’re going to take the drum here,
the whole body you’re going to slide this lever on the top to open and then you’re going
to slide it close. That locks this piece into place. The next thing you’re going to go ahead
and take your auger, slide that in there. Now when you slide that in there you might
be saying hey John dude there’s like half an inch space between where this goes in and
the main body. This is normal, don’t freak out.
The next thing you’re going to do is you’re going to take the screen. Now the screen,
the bottom part of the screen here always needs to go in the bottom and centered up.
If you put it in on the top, it’s not going to work and you need to put it exactly in
the bottom and then and only then it’s going to slide right into place and it’s going to
be flush with the auger. Then you’re going to take the drum cap which
is this piece right here, put this on and then you’re going to want to make sure you
get the right part if you’re juicing. You’re going to want to use the one with the largest
hole size. All these other ones are for pasta, pasta, and this one’s pasta, and this one’s
for homogenizing. You’re going to want to get the one with the large hole here, this
is the adjustable one, it also has numbers on it. If you put one of these guys on there
it’s not going to work properly. So we’re going to go ahead and put that guy on there
and let’s see. Let’s put the collection bowls, one collection
bowl goes underneath there, nice and large. The other one right there. The juice will
come out of the bottom of the machine and the pulp will come out the front. In addition
you’ve got the pusher and I only ever recommend you use the pusher to push produce into the
machine, do not use your fingers, do not use your kids fingers, do not use a fork, knife
or any other tool because you probably will damage the auger. Once again make sure you
use the pusher. Don’t lose it! It’s a valuable piece.
Okay, let’s see extra parts. So once again this is the homogenizing blank for doing the
nut butters and what not we don’t need. We’ll only need the cleaning brush after we’re done
juicing. So this is the NC800 all set up ready to use.
As you can see it’s still a horizontal single auger style juicer pretty similar to the previous
models. But there’s a few things, you know. Number one the feed chute’s size larger. Number
two the collection bins are larger. Number three there’s an adjustable outlet here, so
you can adjust the back pressure, so you’ll probably get a higher yield. It’s said that
you get about seven to thirteen percent more juice with the NC800. I have yet to test that
in a side by side comparison. Which I will do fairly soon for you guys.
So that pretty much wraps it up for the NC800. Next what I want to do for you guys is actually
compare this to the original Omega 8004 nutrition center. So let’s go ahead and pull that guy
out. Alright, I’m back. As you guys can see we got the NC800 juicer HDS and we have the
Omega 8004 which is also HD and technically would be the 8004 HDW because it’s white.
First thing I want to do is compare these guys so let’s go ahead and I’ll line these
guys up on their back here for you guys. Hold it very carefully. Check out the size. Man,
check it out, the NC800 is considerably bigger. So if you have space issues, that’s one thing
I don’t have you want to get the 8004 because it’s much smaller. The NC800 much larger.
The next thing I want to do is kind of weigh them. Let’s see, you pick this guy up, pick
this guy up, I could definitely say the Omega 8004 is actually a tad bit heavier than the
NC800 machine. The next thing I’m always interested in doing
is see if the machines are backwards compatible. So what I want to do is we’re going to go
ahead and take off the main juicing apparatus on this machine, take off the main juicing
apparatus on this machine and switch them. Let’s see if this guy fits on the 8004. Which
it does and we’re going to see if this guy fits on the NC800, which it does. So what
this means if you have already an 8004 you could just buy this end cap and all the parts
and then you will theoretically have the NC800. So that’s really cool. Let’s go ahead and
switch these guys back. So that you guys don’t get confused because they’re not supposed
to come like this. So the next thing I want to compare is the
feed chute size. This is very a big deal, I mean some juicers have three inch wide feed
chutes, those are huge, these are high speed centrifugal ejection juicers that I’m not
necessarily a fan of. They run at high speed, like 10,000 rpms and can oxidize your food
more, which means lower nutrition and depending on what you’re juicing, like leafy greens
you’re going to get a much lower yield in a centrifugal ejection compared to these guys.
These guys actually probably make the highest yield on the leafy greens.
So if you’re interested in juicing a lot of leafy greens and getting the nutrition out
of the leafy greens, which are the most nutrient dense foods on the planet, then you probably
want to get one of these ones and not those high speed ones that may sound like an airplane
taking off in your kitchen. So that being said these guys have significantly
smaller feed chute sizes. We could just go ahead and show you the comparison. Here’s
the pusher on the Omega 8004 and here’s the pusher on the NC800. Let’s go ahead and turn
these guys up and as you could see the base, I mean that’s a pretty big difference right
there. It’s significantly larger. So like this pusher will not fit in that one and this
pusher will easily in fit in part of that one but then you still have a lot of extra
leftover space. So for you guys what I want to do, I want
to show you guys the comparison, just like this. So you guys could see the difference
in the openings. One opening is much larger than the other, so the Omega 8004 opening
it’s a circle and its’ about 1.5 inches in diameter and it’s a circle. This guy is actually
about 1.5 inches by 2 inches and it’s more of like a stadium like shape. So what does
this mean to you? This means less cutting for you. This means that this feed chute is
85% larger. So that’s a significant increase. Almost two times as large! So I really think
that’s really beneficial. It’s going to allow you to do less cutting, do more juicing and
actually just make it easier for you guys. When a juicer’s easier to use and easier to
clean, it’s going to get used move often. That’s another thing I like about both these
machines because they’re pretty much the same set up, these are the fastest juicer that
I found to clean in the whole world. This machine here takes me a minute and a half
and I could imagine based on how this one looks, which is pretty similar, it’s going
to take me about a minute and a half as well. Now, it might take you under two minutes,
but it depends on how fast of a juicer cleaner you are and I happen to be a very fast juice
cleaner. So let’s go ahead and take some of these end
cap parts off and check them out. Once again here’s the one piece end cap on the Omega
8004 and this is the two piece end cap. So you have the end cap here and then you have
the adjustable doohickey right there. So yeah, this makes the juicer tad bit longer.
Next we have the juicing screen, lets go ahead and pull these guys out and compare them to
you guys. As you could see the NC800 juicing screen has been reinforced. I think maybe
it has some challenges with the 8000 series machine screen cracking due to some used recycled
plastic, which they now have corrected. But, this one looks to be even stronger, they’ve
added even an extra ring here and some extra pieces of plastic here and the overall screen
looks to be much heavier duty. It’s just a lot thicker.
In addition one of the things I like, the back end screen right here, lets go ahead
and try and compare those guys up. They look to be about the same size approximately. But
if we look at the screen, the second stage screen right here, the second stage screen
on the N800 has been increased in size. I didn’t run the percentage increase in this
yet. But to my untrained eye, it’s actually a fair bit larger.
So what does a larger screen mean? A larger screen means more time to clean, but it also
means higher yields for you. So I could see it taking an extra thirty seconds to clean,
but for that you’re going to be rewarded with higher yields. Once again, it’s claimed that
this makes seven to thirteen percent higher yields, that’s probably due to the screen,
this screen and the adjustment on the end there.
Next let’s take a look at the augers. I’m really curious to see if these augers are
similar or different. There’s the auger on the NC800, here’s the auger on the Omega 8004.
Check it out. Oh my gosh. These guys look to be almost the same, but as I look at the
auger, man these guys are too close to call. I don’t want to get them mixed up. If we put
them side by side man, they’re like oh my gosh, they’re like so similar.
The auger on the NC800 looks to be a little bit different than the auger on the 8004 to
my untrained eye. It’s very important not to switch augers and use one in the other
because if the screen design has changed then that means you will get plastic scrapping,
which I do not recommend. So for all practical purposes they’re very similar but different
so the same size and whatnot. Of course here we got the main body here.
We’re going to go ahead and take these guys out. Once again the main thing on the body
here is actually the size. Let’s compare the sizes. They’re about the same size, but the
main thing is the feed chute has been greatly increased in size. So I really like that a
lot. I’m going to go ahead and reassemble these
guys and actually then I’ll be back at you with my final comments. Alright so we got
these machines back together and once again these guys are super simple and easy to assemble/disassemble
and also to clean. I guess to sum this up in the comparison. I mean, while they are
virtually almost identical there’s definitely some several improvements with this machine
that I really like. Number one I like the larger feed chute. This
means that you’ll have to do less cutting. Also when using this machine I’ve noticed
that it’s, better at self-feeding than the 8004, 8006, 8003 and 8005 series machines
because of the larger feed chute the auger kind of gets around it and it kind of draws
things in a little bit better. With this machine I’ve found that you really have to use the
pusher a lot more. With this you’ll have to use it a little bit less. What does that equate
to you? You’re going to save a little bit of time when juicing in the NC800. We all
know time is money. Now yes, this machine definitely costs far
more. For more money you’re going to get a larger feed chute, you’re going to get a seven
to thirteen percent yield increase. So that alone could save you money in the long run
to make up for the extra cost plus the ease of use and also the ease of cleaning is pretty
much the same in both machines. The other thing that is different is the catch
cups, the catch containers, the pulp catch and the juice catch. So if you’re juicing
large quantities you’re going to have to empty it less often in the NC800.
Alright so now I want to sum up the differences between the NC800 and the Omega 8004. I guess
number one is the weight. So if you’re like you don’t, like if you have problems with
like arthritis and lifting heavy stuff, you’re going to want to go with the NC800, it’s definitely
lighter to pick up and carry. If you got space issues, you live in a small apartment in Manhattan
you might want to go with the smaller machine because this is a fair bit longer.
If you don’t want to do as much cutting, you want to go with the NC800 because it has a
much larger feed chute. That means less cutting, it’s going to actually suck the produce in
a little bit better based on my experience and so that means it’s going to be more hassle
free. If you really want to get the most yield out of the produce you’re juicing and you’re
going to get a single auger machine that’s horizontal style you want to go with the NC800.
It’s the new model, it’s improved it gets seven to thirteen percent higher yield when
juicing things. If you like a juicers that’s really a no
brainer to use, you just cut the produce, put it in, it juices, it comes out, you’re
done, you want to go with the 8004. The NC800 you have an adjustment on the end and this
will mean you will get a higher yield if used properly but it also means you’re going to
have to figure it out. So if you don’t like figuring out stuff, you want to get the 8004.
If you want the maximum yield and you don’t mind figuring out and having some trial and
error because that’s what it’s going to be like and they do have the recommended settings
in the instruction book then you’re going to be cool with the NC800.
If you like a pulp free juice then you probably want to go with the Omega 8004 because the
Omega 8004 comes with an accessory strainer that you can set on top of the juice catch
cup or collection cup when juicing so it’ll move the excess pulp. The all new NC800 does
not come with an accessory strainer so you’re just going to have to go and buy one at a
local department store if you want to get a strainer to remove the excess pulp if the
desired level of pulp is not acceptable to you.
Now if you’re going to be on a juice fast and you’re going to be juicing a lot definitely
would go with the NC800 because of the later catch cups. At least it’s probably, I don’t
know, thirty percent larger just based on looking at it, maybe even forty percent larger.
It’s significantly larger, so it’s going to allow you to juice more instead of having
to empty the cup all too often like I’ve had to do with the 8004 in the past.
Let’s see, yeah if you like artwork and fancy artwork, futuristic design, you want to go
with the NC800 man. It just looks cool, little puppy. Ruff, ruff, ruff. I know those, I used
to work at a toy story and these little dogs they’d just walk, be on the thing all day,
ruff, ruff, ruff, ruff. It’s like the little dog, ruff, ruff, ruff.
Alright, so I guess that pretty much wraps up this episode with you guys showing you
guys the all new NC800 juicer from Omega. Now, once again this machine is not yet available
but it will be available soon. So what you want to do if you want to get one, you want
to go down in the description, click the link, it’ll take you to the webpage where you can
pre-order it and once again it’s scheduled to be out within the next thirty days. So
if you want to pre-order it pre-order it now, we’ll ship it to you when they’re in stock
and you’ll be one of the first in the nation to get the all new Omega NC800.
In my opinion it’s definitely been worth the wait and now I’m going to be juicing up in
my all new NC800. Hey, does anybody want to buy a used 8004? In any case I hope you guys
enjoyed this episode. Once again my name is John Kohler with Be sure
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How to Juice Aloe Vera in the Omega VRT330 Alright, this is John Kohler with
Today we have another exciting episode for you and this is will it juice. Da-da-dunah!
It’s like that whole series on YouTube about will it do something else. In any case so
what we’re going to do today is a really cool vegetable actually that many of you guys may
not be eating. Hopefully some of you guys are, but this is a commonly known vegetable
that’s really good for the skin. What that is, what we’re going to juice today is this
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43 thoughts on “First Look: Omega NC800 Cold Press Juicer and 8004 Comparison

  • July 5th Update: We now have the Omega NC800 IN STOCK and ready to ship! Be one of the first to get this juicer by clicking the link in the above description.

  • If the NC800 is lighter than the older model I wonder if they went cheap on the motor. FYI … the weight of small electric appliances has a lot to do with the copper windings of the electric motor. Generally speaking … heavier is better … usually means a heavier duty motor.

  • I like the new intro John. So you need 3 juicers, a horizontal single auger juicer, a VRT and a press like the Wells

    Doesn't come with a strainer screen anymore?

  • Thanks for the update. I'll stick with my 8006, as this new one does not do enough to obsolete my 8006. If the made the feed hole 2"x 2", I'd be all over it! As it is now at 2×1.5, it's still not going to feed large carrots! Omega…Fail! Don't these Omega designers use there own products? If they did, they'd know to take an 8006 and increase its size 100%, having a perfect juicer.

  • I really appreciated the swap test. Can we purchase the end cap from you to upgrade our 8000 series? Secondly, something about this review that I found lacking was a close-up demonstration of the new end cap and how it functions to increase pressure. I can't tell if it increases pressure on the silicone screen gasket by pushing back on it, or if it increases pressure at the selector cap with another gasket… I'm sure we all look forward to some juice-offs.

  • John, I love how thorough you are in covering every detail. You are an awesome educator! Thanks for all you do to contribute to our quest for health.

  • John-thanks for your video! I love my 8003, already upgraded to Ultem a year ago. Are you going to sell the conversion parts to get better yield? Almost all my use is dark leafy greens, and 10% better yield would be fantastic. I think the new juicer is ugly and too 'styled' for my taste.

  • I will not be offering the parts. You would need to purchase each individual part from Omega. In my opinion it would make more sense to sell your 8003 and use the proceeds to fund the purchase of the NEW NC800

  • Having the housing and the tray unitized together is a bad idea. It makes the piece too bulky and odd making it harder to clean, dry and store.

  • John, Great videos. Even though you stress not sticking anything in the feed tube but the pusher, I did not heed this advise. I was only going to stick the blade of my knife in a little ways to cut up some greens i over loaded into the feed tube. My 8004 was only a few days old and my heart sunk when the auger caught the blade of my knife. (yes it was still running, mistake 2) I was lucky, it snapped the tip of my knife and no harm to the auger. Lesson learned.

  • Thanks, John–and I might do that. Are you going to do a comparison test in yield between this new horizontal and one of the Vert machines? The only reason I'd want the new NC would be the savings realized from daily juicing of mostly leafy greens.

  • It sucks that I just bought an 8004, which works great, but the feed tube SUCKS. You can't even get mature kale leaves to go through it without having to halve them. I would gladly pay them $100 for the new parts to make mine work correctly. Hopefully we'll just be able to buy the mechanical parts and not have to pay for all the accessories like the larger containers (which probably won't fit under it) and all the pasta parts.

  • Can you clarify your reasons for suggesting a full upgrade for the 8000's with Ultem? Differences seem to be size/weight (due to motor changes??), catch bins, feed chute size, feed chute detachment, and maybe the auger (if different I'd love to know why). Buying just the cap seems like a good option for some people at a glance.

  • Lovin' my Omega 8006 from Discount Juicers. The NC800 larger feed chute is a plus . . . but . . . Does Omega not listen to you,Man? What happened to the little screen thing over the juice collection cup? Oh, Yeah! I want to see John Kohler extrude pasta . . . LOL!

  • Have you tried making coconut butter with this model, the Omega Vert 350/400HD, and the Omega J8004/J8006? I was thinking it would be good to make coconut butter to where there's no loss of the nutrients since the pulp and liquid is mixed together instead of separating the dry pulp since there's so many nutrients in the pulp portion.

  • While the WHOLE end (all juicing parts) will fit the older models as I show.. Omega may not honor warranty for machines that are upgraded in this way. In addition, purchasing the parts alone may be $150. At that point, I would purchase the whole machine and get a 15 yr warranty, and sell the old machine to help offset the cost of the new one. BTW just the END cap will NOT fit the older machines. The individual parts are not interchangeable.

  • Thank you, I think that these details will help people make a better decision when deciding to upgrade or buy new, probably in favor of buying new.

  • I agree with this… I wonder if it's possible to separate them, or if they would consider separating them in the future.

  • I love your videos!! Thank you so much for spending the time to go into so much detail. I will be purchasing the new one soon!

  • This juicer will juice wheatgrass and leafy greens without as much chopping. In my prior tests, the horizontal single auger style juicers have yielded 25% more juice when juicing straight leafy greens than the vrt.

  • The 8004/8006 will make coconut butter. as will the NC800 which would work about the same. Using the VRT series machines to make coconut butter WILL VOID the WARRANTY. If you want to make coconut butter I would recommend the NC800 model.

  • Can you make coconut butter without dehydrating the coconut flakes you make initially from the whole coconut? Can you take the coconut meat, juice it into coconut flakes, skip the dehydration process, and then run it through the juicer a couple times to get the coconut butter? Can you directly make coconut butter from the coconut meat with the juicer without making coconut flakes first or is that much more time consuming?

  • Seriously? I just bought my 8006 (haven't even gotten it in the mail yet), and now there's already a newer, better system out. 😛

  • dehydration is in the process of making coconut butter. You can run the coconut meat thru the juicer with the blank, and you will get coconut mush. It will NOT save for any length of time. Whereas coconut butter will save for months in the fridge.

  • can that hs800 housing and augur be put on the 8005? wondering about upgrading my 8005 if i can just get the attachments and keep my motor body that would be great.

  • While the WHOLE end (all juicing parts) will fit the older models as I show.. Omega may not honor warranty for machines that are upgraded in this way. In addition, purchasing the parts alone may be $150+. At that point, I would purchase the whole machine and get a 15 yr warranty, and sell the old machine to help offset the cost of the new one. BTW just the END cap will NOT fit the older machines.  The individual parts are not interchangeable.

  • John,
    I know this model has a bigger mouth, but do you think Omega will come out with an even newer model with a wider mouth? 2"x2" or more would be better so you wouldn't have to cut cucumbers etc. The Kurings whole slow juicer did a nice job with 3"x3".

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